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This page is to assist anyone who is trying to trace ancestors or deceased relatives who lived in the Parish, it is primarily for persons who live some distance away and cannot easily visit the area or for those persons who are visiting in the future Do note that any information posted on this site is available for all to see! Please send a brief email with your request for information but give as much detail as possible. You must give your full name and email address. Requests may be edited. Email to the Website coordinator Cllr. Guy Martin – martinguy@aol.com RESIDENTS OF THE PARISH If you can help with any of the requests please email the Enquirer direct. Messages will be deleted after about one year! _______________________________ Try these sites first for information http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~dusk/chapel-e-l-f.htm http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~dusk/chapel-newspapers.html http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~dusk/celfmarphil/celfmarriages.html We would like to thank Pauline Nicks for the kind donation to the Parish Council Archives of a Peak Forest Almanak and a thirteen page document from the Epiphany Sessions Derbyshire, not dated, probably late 1800's. William Yates of Ridge Hall Chapel en le Frith, where his family had lived for over 150 years against John Higinbotham, John Shirt, Thomas Eyre, John Lomas, Thomas Mycock, John Barber, Samuel Bann and William Barton. To view please contact the Clerk of the Council
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22/01/2010	I am looking for Charles Hector Smith. Worked for Ferodo. 1940s. Lived Church Brow then Park Rd? Am researching family history and only know that he was born in Wales. Does anyone have any info. Thanks. alwyncroke@live.com
24/03/2010	I am hoping that you can help me discover the name of my Great Great Great Grandad. My Great Great Grandad was called Joseph Edwin Ford and he was born in Chapel en le Frith on 14^th June, 1860. From the 1861 Census it appears his mother was called Martha but there is no mention of a father. Joseph moved away from Chapel en Le Frith to go to Bury, Lancashire where he met his wife Sarah Riley. I have all subsequent family details but I have been unable to find any information about his ancestors. Any information would be greatly appreciated. I currently live in Canada and I am desperately trying to track my family tree from afar. Yours sincerely, Lisa Ford Email: chemtex@telus.net
28/03/2010	Firstly - what a wonderful website. Thankyou. I am trying to find out what I can about a Mr and Mrs MOORE who were resident at Chenley Manse, Chapel en le Frith around 1795. We have found a lovely damask collar and cloth amongst my mother's things, and the only hit to it's origins is a note that they were "given to Granny MOORE. Grandpa MOORE was the minister of the little independant chapel". 1795 I would love to know any details, either of descendants of the MOORE's - even just possible descendant surnames. Also, where would Chenley Manse have been situated in the parish. Any help most appreciated. Robyn Woller robynwoller@xtra.co.nz
26/05/2010	Hi Martin, I'm trying to find any information on Richard White born abt 1817 in Chapel En Le Frith.I think he married an Eliza E. ? but know nothing of his parents. Many thanks Mark Blackmore skinnymark@gmail.com
26/05/2010	Hi My mother Shirley Carrington nee Garlick died on September 15th 2009.Her father Harry Ogle Garlick born 1905/6 died in 1939 in a quarry accident somewhere in the Peak.He is buried in Peak Forest church yard.Mother was going to do some research but sadly died before she had the opportunity. I am going to continue her quest and see if I can uncover anything about his life.Mother never really knew him because she was too young. We also know he emigrated to Canada on the Ausonia but returned when there was a fire on the family farm.He married Violet Fox and had my mother and her brother Duncan Garlick with whom we have lost touch. I now live in Cambridge so distance is a problem.I would love to gain some information. Regards. Dawn Young(Carrington) dawn.young23@yahoo.co.uk
3/06/2010	Dear Mr Martin Thank you for bearing with me on a warm and sunny evening. My full name is Richard Peter Fitzgeorge-Parker and I reside at Greatworth, Northamptonshire, Tel: 01295-711442 My Grandmother Helen A Fitzgeorge-Parker resided at 'Breck Meadow' between 1910 and 1920, She is listed as Head of household in the census of 1911. My late father was the youngest of her offspring. I am trying to establish whether she was the owner of the property which I know to have been privately constructed, and, if so, from whom the land was purchased and by whom. After consulting the ordnance survey maps of the area it would seem probably that the house was built in the early years of the last century, but I cannot be certain. If any light can be thrown upon any of the above question I shall be most grateful. The precise address according to the High Peak Council is: Breck Meadow - Wash - Nr,Chapel-en-le-Frith We did look on the web of the Parish Council, very impressive and helpful. Yours sincerely - Richard P.Fitzgeorge-Parker email : Ronkapop@aol.com If anyone can give some information could you send copy email to me at martinguy@aol.com
10/06/2010	Hi Guy I've contacted you before ( as below) regarding a relative named Thomas Quirk, we've unraveled this mystery & found he was Exhumed & re-buried buried in Stockport so thanks for your help with your input. I now have a further request if posssible, On Thomas Quirks birth certificate it refers to him living at "New houses, Hayfield road , Chapel-en-le-frith around 1920-1922 , I have been unable to locate where this address actually is , I have had some information from a High peak borough council ( Lisa Smart) suggesting a possible link with "new house farm , the wash , but I'm not too sure myself, also lisa says numbers 17, 19, 23 to 29 and 48 and 50 Hayfield Road could be possibilities. Would you have any kind of information which might shed some light on where this address may be. Many thanks Steve email: stevekay20@yahoo.co.uk
12/08/2010	I am looking for information on my g g grandfather Lawrence Potts his son was also Lawrence and was born about 1788 in Chapel-en-le-Frith they were farmers in the area and another family name is Edmund Pott any information on this family would be helpful. Some of the family went to Sheffield and succeeded in the cutlery business. Cheers Don Potts - Australia yapdon63@optusnet.com.au
1/10/2010	I have recently found some new details regarding my family from the Chapel area: Benjamin Mortin was married to Ann Cresswell in 1747 and they had at least 3 children. Robert born 1752 who is my 4x great grandfather Benjamin born 1759 Joseph born 1759 They lived in the Chapel area and I wonder if anyone has more information about the family and who Benjamin's parents were and where they lived and worked. Any help would be most appreciated, I now live in North Norfolk Thank you Barry Mortin bmortin9@hotmail.com Dear Barry The Robert that I mentioned (below) was born 12 Oct 1841 (chr 2 Jan 1842 at St Matthews, parents John and Hannah MORTIN) according to IGI but born 12 Oct 1842 according to an ancestral file, the former year being consistent with his year of birth from his age on the headstone; the inscription goes: In Affectionate Remembrance of Robert MORTIN of Low Leighton who died Feb 19th 1892 in his 51st year. George William beloved son of Robert and Mary MORTIN of Low Leighton who died March 15th 1878 aged 15 months. ... their daughter died May 28th 1888 aged 8 years and 2 months. ... of Robert MORTIN died Nov 10 1888, aged 45 years I agree, Robert's parents seem to have been John MORTIN and his wife Hannah GARSIDE. From the monumental inscription at Thomas Becket burial ground (Red Dragon CD) To the memory of JOHN MORTIN of OLLERSET who died Aug 9^th 1848 aged 36 years also HANNAH his wife who died May 12^th 1873 aged 62 years “They sleep in Jesus” Robert's father, John would have been born in late 1811 or in 1812 and this is consistent with the christening at Thomas Becket on 30 Nov 1811, parents Robert MORTEN and his wife Nancy [ROBINSON]. Then, as you point out, the ancestry becomes a bit uncertain... Sandy is busy at the moment so may take some time to reply, but it might be worth asking her what she has on file. I have copied her into this email. Best wishes John Hi Barry and John, I'm on leave for a couple of weeks before heading to Tasmania- so great to switch off for work for a while. I'm trying to catch up on a few emails before we head off . I don't have much to add to John's comments as I believe the same connections. I think Robert was possibly the Robert MORTIN bpt 8 Dec 1752 Chapel-en-le-Frith son of Benjamin MORTIN and wife Ann CRESSWELL of Hollinknowle. Benjamin married Ann 29 May 1747 CelF and had following children bpt in CelF Elizabeth bpt ?? buried 1759 Robert bpt 1752 Mary bpt 1759 of Hole House, CelF Benjamin bpt 1759 Joseph bpt 1759 Sarah bpt 1760 of Hole House, CelFdied 1833 married Ralph DAIN You might like to check the Celf parish records more fully as the three bpt in 1759 I dont have noted if all same age. sometimes for what ever reason families would go to church and do a job lot on a few children and bpt same time. Possibly Benjamin went to the non-conformist church at Chinley and then decided to cover all bases and bpt the children at St Thomas a Beckets, Celf. or maybe they were triplets, but does appear to be a gap from marriage in 1747. Benjamin died 1797 of Up Lane, Celf and Ann died 1795 both buried Celf Benjamin 12 Jul 1797 and Ann 22 Feb 1795. I dont have anything back pre Benjamin who would have been born pre 1730's. Benjamin is not a name that appears in John and my tree of the MORTEN's of Haylee - nor for that matter is Robert- they seemed to like John and Henry and used all the time- making for fun trying to sort the families. Can you tell me what became of Levi?. The Rev James Clegg Minister of Chinley Chapel left diary 1708-1755 and I checked this for MORTIN/MORTEN's etc.. Interestingly there is only one mention of a Sarah MORETON which is for 23 Oct 1744 where 'Sarah Moreton came to see us". So not much help at all. James was also a Dr so sometimes interesting snippets on him treating people. Alas neither family of MORTIN's appear to be mentioned. I think Benjamin moved into area but where from I'm not sure. A Benjamin MORTIN married a Hannah THORNHILL 26 Aug 1741 Peak Forest. Maybe an earlier married for Benjamin. The IGI has a LDS entry of Benjamin born abt 1710 of Sittinglow, Chapel but you would want to check the actual PR's for this . The married of Benjamin to Ann in 1747 states them both of Marsh Hall, Celf so might be worth looking at the Cresswell side to see if mentioned. Hope the above helps. Regards Sandy
18/10/2010	Dear Sir and Madame, My Grandmother Esther Hartle gave birth to 2 daughters out of wedlock. One was born in 1905 and one in 1909, their names were Jeanie and Phyllis Hartle (Granny's maiden name). From what we have been able to find on our own, these daughters were left behind when Granny sailed to Canada, married my Granddad, then to the U.S. and had my Father and 2 Aunties. We were never told of these children left behind. My Father's first cousin Desmond Hartle in Buxton, sat me down recently and told me that in fact Granny did have atleast 2 daughters that she left behind, and the family in England were sworn to secrecy should one of us ever came to England. I felt sick and excited all at once. Theses sisters seem to have married brothers in 1935 by the sir name of Fletcher. This is where my trail ends. In my heart, I know that they must have had children and that I have 1st cousins somewhere, that I must find and know..... and love. I believe that my Father went to his young grave never knowing he had older sisters, and it breaks my heart. Granny was a domestic, and studying the cultures of that era, I find no fault in her, that it must have been a heart wrenching decision to leave behind her children. I would be ever so grateful for any information at all on my lost Aunties. With warm and kind regards, Jacqueline Cant-Ribes PS Please use this email address: skinspa@mac.com
8/11/2010	Hi I am trying to find out more about my family. This is what I know for certain My grandfather was Frank Canterbury born Chapel en le Frith 1912 he married Mary Storey in Chapel en le Frith, and had a daughter Frances born chapel en le Frith, after that the information I have at present his parents was Robert Canterbury married Bertha Stone 1912 can anyone help with further information please, is there any Canterbury's still living in Chapel en le Frith? Diana Needham diananeedham@supanet.com
22/11/2010	Dear Guy, I am trying to find two daughters that my Granny Esther Hartle gave birth to in 1905 and in 1909. One was named Phyllis and one named Jeannie. They married brothers by the name of Fletcher in 1945. Granny left them behind when she sailed to Canada, and there may have been a third daughter that she brought with her as an infant and gave her new husband's name of Cant. This is where my trail ends. I would so appreciate anything you might help me find one them, as I am sure that they must have had families that I must find. I am an American living in Naples Florida. My Granny's family still live in Derbyshire/Buxton, a nephew and several great nieces. With great Kindness, Jacqueline Ribes HARTLE/FLETCHER FAMILIES Jacqueline Ribes jribes@skinspaofnaples.com
17 Dec 2010	Hello I am looking for people with the surname of Frith and other variations which might be derived from Old English "fyrthe" (frith, woodland) (the combination "th" represents the runic character "thorn."). I hope to find males with these surnames who might be interested in participating in a surname DNA project, which will determine which families are related to which. I see William Frith who married Alice Beard on 1697 in Chapel-en-le-Frith; I see Friths, Fryths and Frythes listed elsewhere in Derbys as early as 1560, and probably much earlier than that. Are the Friths of Chapel-en-le-Frith related to the Friths of Netherthorp? (Seems very possible.) Are they related to Thrifts of the Manor of Wakefield, West Yorkshire, circa 1330? Are they related to the Friths of Orkney? or to the Friths who colonized Bermuda in the mid 1600's and proliferated there? How many different families are there with these surnames, and where did each family originate? I use a drawing of the St Thomas Becket Church in Chapel-en-le-Frith as the logo for this project (with Guy's kind permission), and am particularly interested in finding participants from this region. Other surnames of interest (possibly having a similar origin, derived from "fyrthe") include Evilthrift, Firk, Firks, Firth, Freak, Freake, Freed, Freeth, Freke, Fridd, Frift, Fright, Fryd, Thrift, & Vreede. For more details, please see http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Thrift-Frith-Firth and http://www.one-name.org/profiles/thrift.html or contact me, Richard Thrift rtx (at) cox (dot) net Note the email address - I spell out the (at) & (dot) to discourage spambots from picking up the email address. You will need to replace the (at) with @ and the (dot) with . to email Richard
3/02/2011	I am currently researching my family history and have tried without success to locate where my grandparents are buried. My grandmother was Mary Elizabeth Wilson who committed suicide by drowning herself in the canal at Bugsworth in 1925. I am not sure whether this would mean she could not be buried in consecrated ground. Her maiden name was Bradley and her family were resident in Bradshaw Edge, Peak forest and either Bugsworth or Chinley. She married Jonas Wilson whose family had been resident in Bugsworth for several generations- he died in 1933.I would be most grateful for any information that anyone might have concerning either family. Mrs Pauline Petts. npetts@npetts.plus.com
3/03/2011	My sister and I are seeking info on who was living at Old Brooke House in Coombe in the 1950s/1960s - our maternal grandmother Mary (aka Molly) Griffith lived there for a short while about 1965/67 before being moving to an old folks home in Bramhall Cheshire, being picked up by our dad and step mother at the time. We remember visiting the house as children in the 1950s/ early 1960s before our mum died in 1963 - it had a gypsy caravan and a pond in the garden, a fairy garden (?!) and a painting of the Laughing Cavalier; however we do not know if it was a relative of our grandmother or a friend who was living at the house at the time. We discovered the other year that our Gran had a brother Richard Nightingale BANKS but we never knew anything about him, and have not managed to find out anything about him over the last few years, so we dont know if there was any connection between him and Chapel and Old Brooke House - we know that he must have married as his wife and son were at grandads funeral (Molly's husband) in 1937 but we don't know their names, only that the son had the initial N. Even if it was not his family who lived there we are mystified what the connection was between our Gran and Old Brooke House - it might have just been a friend who she lived with for a while. We would be grateful if anyone can shed any light on this mystery for us! Richard Caville richiecav@ntlworld.com Portsmouth, UK
7/03/2011	POTTS FAMILY Looking for descendants of William Thomas Potts (1826-1900) married Martha Lowe in Chapel en le Frith in 1856. Their direct descendants were: Joseph William Potts (1859-1903) married Annie McCall in Lancashire. Children John, Eliza, Lillie, Willie, May. John Edmund Potts (1860-1929) married Mary ??. Children Martha, Amy, Ann. Martha possibly married Frank Frith & Amy married John T Noble. Thomas Webster Potts (1862-1911) & did not marry. George Henry Potts (1865-1897 also did not marry. Many thanks for any help as I will be visiting Chapel in late May. Harold Coppock coppock@krankn.com.au
29/03/2011	lancslas@three.com.au As you will notice from the email address I live in Australia but was born in Lancashire where I lived for thirty years. I have been quite successful in my family research of the Lingards (Lingart / Linguard) until the late 1700s, at which time the family appears to go from Tideswell to Chapel Le Frith. My great great great uncles were Anthony and William Lingard, the former hanged for murder in 1815 and the latter transported to Australia in 1826 for highway robbery. I have yet to trace William in Australia after he was given a conditional pardon in 1852. Any info on the Linguards/Lingards/Lingarts of Chapel Le Frith would be very much appreciated so that I can close that side of the family to around the 1620s Regards Pat
01/05/2011	I am trying to find any information I can about my paternal gt gt grandparents who were married in Chapel en le frith on 9 Jul 1821. They were: William Hulse, born Repton 1803 Mary Cooper. I am having real trouble pinning down Mary : the censuses have different ages (ranging from 1806 to 1812) and different places of birth (Littleover, Belper). I do not know her parents names or whether she had any siblings. Any information greatly appreciated. Trish email : samesfamily@yahoo.co.uk
26/05/2011	When I was a lad in the late 1950s I used to go up to Bank Hall (overlooking Chapel) in the school holidays with my father and uncle who worked there on painting and decorating contracts. I used to spend all day climbing trees and exploring the gardens and outbuildings - it was a magical place to visit! At that time the Hall was owned by a Jewish businessman but we can't remember his name. Does anyone recall him and maybe know what became of him? D W Lockett Chapel en le Frith. fraulock@hotmail.co.uk
27/05/2011	Hi Martin, I am doing some family research for my partner. His cousin I believe used to or maybe still does live in Chapel-en-le Frith, his name was John H Bontoft, he married a Wendy Hinde in 1986. John was born around 1934. Would you be able to put this message up on your board for me, just asking for any information about John. Thanks Carol lukalily@btinternet.com
17/09/2011	I live in Australia and descend from a very long line of Lomas's from the Chapel en le Frith district mostly farming stock. I cannot seem to get further back than Thomas Lomas born 1686 died 1734 both at CELF.he was married to Mary and had sons Henry,John,George and daughter Mary. Can anyone assist? Thank you Barry Lomas Victoria Australia barrylomas@gmail.com
19/01/2012	Thanks Guy. I am trying to trace a George Hanmer from Chapel-en-le-Frith who died in 1920.I don't have any more details sorry. There is a Hanmer family in Combs but they don't know of him. Regards Jack Hanmer email: jackhanmer@cowbrook.com





A CD is now available listing the Index and Memorial Inscriptions for The Parish Church, St. Thomas Becket and Town End Methodist Church, years prior to late 1980’s, with an Index and photographs of later burials for both Churches, but note this is not a register of burials, these are held at the County Record Office, Matlock. See the War Memorial page for St Thomas Becket & Methodist Churches MI Indexes.